Cancer hiccups

It's been since February 2015. Almost four years. That was the last time we've had a cancer hiccup. I say "hiccup"because life is so much bigger than cancer. If you are familiar with Carolyn's cancer journey, it has been one that even her current docs say is one for the textbooks.

It’s been since February 2015. Almost four years. That was the last time we’ve had a cancer hiccup. I say “hiccup” because life is so much bigger than cancer. If you are familiar with Carolyn’s cancer journey, it has been one that even her current docs say is one for the textbooks. If you want to review the saga, previous blog posts are listed below.

As far as “now,” we’ve kept things somewhat under wraps for over a month, simply because we haven’t known exactly what we’re dealing with and the course of action we’ll be taking. We’ve kept our families and church leadership informed each step of the way, but as we’ve done in the past, we have used my blog to get the word out and to recruit prayer.

Carolyn has had a lump under her jawline for at least five years. The doctors have been aware of it and have watched it carefully at each of her regular checkups. This year, it started getting sore, and it finally got downright painful. It was time for surgery to remove the rogue lymph node, and of course, with Carolyn’s history that also meant a biopsy. Surgery was scheduled for September 25, and after a few days of waiting, we were totally surprised by the results.

Here’s the timeline for perspective:

Oct 16

  • The biopsy on the mass removed from Carolyn’s neck/jaw which we thought was a rogue lymph node turned out to be a rare, destructive salivary gland cancer. (Because it was rare, and because of her history with cancer, we asked for a second reading of the biopsy. The second reading, a few weeks later, confirmed the first. It is adenoid cystic.)
  • After discovering the salivary gland cancer, they asked Carolyn to get a PET scan on Saturday (Oct 13), which she did. This was to see if it was in other spots.
  • The results of the PET scan came back, and while there was no evidence of cancer in other salivary glands, there is a hot spot on one of her tonsils and in her throat, and there were some lymph nodes in her groin that lit up.
  • Carolyn’s doctor referred her to the Comprehensive Cancer Center, which is part of the Wake Forest Baptist Health system in Winston-Salem, NC. Two appointments were set up – one with an ENT specialist and one with a Hematology/Oncology specialist, who both deal in rare cancers.

Oct 31

Visited with Otolaryngologist (ENT) at CCC WF.

  • The visit was pretty sobering. Long process ahead.
  • The doc’s recommendation is surgery on her neck again to “clear the margins.” It will be more extensive than the previous surgery.
  • Then five weeks of radiation, 5 days a week.
  • He ordered a new CT scan (which she had that day) and wants to do a biopsy of her throat when he does the surgery to see what that shows.

The doc wants to do more research before the surgery is scheduled.

Nov 6

Visited with Hem-Onc at CCC WF.

  • He thought the spots in the groin were secondary to the salivary gland cancer. His focus was on the salivary gland. He is recommending 4-6 weeks of chemo and radiation first, then surgery.
  • Told us that her case will be presented to a Tumor Board on Nov 14 to discuss her case and come up with a plan. This will also include a radiologist to determine if Carolyn can receive more radiation (she had a massive amount back in 1991).
  • He wants to see how the cancer responds to the chemo/radiation before determining surgery extent.
  • He does not want to address the nodes in her groin/abdomen yet. While he suspects they are not cancer (may be sarcoid – which doesn’t need to be treated), he stressed the primary concern is the head/neck cancer.

Nov 15

WF CCC called and said that the Tumor Board met and recommend:

  • MRI with perineural invasion to determine nerve involvement
  • Genomic testing blood work to determinemakeup of the cancer
  • Surgery
  • After more pathology from second surgery, the Tumor Board will determine the treatment.
  • Surgery is penciled in for Tuesday, December 11, at Wake Forest. Six week recovery.

What we heard today was different from the process described last week, which was chemo/radiation first, determine how the cancer responds, and then surgery. Today’s news was surgery first, then we will determine radiation/chemo later (which is what was recommended on Oct 31).

How to respond:

  1. Don’t freak out. We are not. It is what it is, and we are not in control. Our life perspective is centered in the bedrock certainty that God is great, and God is good. That He is love. Nothing can touch us except what He’s appointed. It doesn’t feel good, and we certainly have questions, but since cancer is a reality (again), we are confident that His grace will be sufficient each day.
  2. Speaking of grace… we may have bad days. It’s ok. We’re not perfect. Jesus is. Please don’t hold Jesus responsible for our imperfect responses. Give us grace, and pray that our bad days and shaky moments are few. And don’t be unnerved if/when either of us snips, snaps, gripes or struggles. It’s normal. We are going to lean heavily on strength of Jesus, confident in Him. Any failure to reflect Him is not due to His brightness but our dullness.
  3. Pray. I think that goes without saying. Seriously.
    -Pray for Carolyn’s thought life and mind as well as healing.
    – Pray for the surgery to not be damaging to facial nerves.
    We have lived with the craziness of cancer for 27 years. Whoa. You know what has ushered us through these moments? God’s love has been poured through your prayers. He’s real, folks. So pray. I can affirm with great confidence what the apostle Paul says in 2 Corinthians 1.11:“…you join in helping us by your prayers. Then many will give thanks on our behalf for the gift that came to us through the prayers of many.”
  4. It’s not fun. It’s an interruption. It’s an inconvenience. However, like all of life’s hiccups, it’s an opportunity. There may be some moments of genuine suck along the way. Don’t be alarmed, and don’t get discouraged if we need to be reminded to not be alarmed.

There’s lots of home-grown remedies for hiccups. And some people have hiccups for years! We’re going to hold our breath, hold onto Jesus, and lean forward in faith.

Update 12/11/18

  • 7:06a – Checked in at Wake Forest Baptist and they have just taken her back for the surgery.
  • 7:39a – Surgery has begun. Estimated two hours. Listening to Hillsong’s Christmas cd. Good stuff.
  • 9:51a – Still in surgery. I’ve been down to Starbucks in the lobby 2x and also discovered the cafeteria offers a breakfast combo of scrambled eggs, hashbrowns and two strips of bacon for only $3.18. So that’s a plus. 🥓
  • 10:20a – She is out of surgery and in recovery. Doc said things went very well. He took quite a bit of tissue to ensure he got everything from cancer but said nerves were protected (good news for her smile). We won’t hear back on pathology report of that tissue until first week of January. He also took a biopsy of the back of her tongue/tonsil area that had shown up on PET scan because the tissue there was inflamed. He said he wasn’t concerned too much but needed to know why it showed up on the PET.
  • 11:00a – I was successful at taking my Starbucks cup from earlier back downstairs for a free refill. Just thought everyone would want to know there’s no statute of limitations on refills if you keep your cup. Of course, this is a Baptist hospital, so maybe it’s refill grace.
  • 1:56p – Carolyn is in her own room and will stay overnight. She had a hamburger for lunch, and we are grateful for the caring people and excellent facilities here at WFBM. Thank you all for praying and following along today!
  • 5:39p – She’s doing great. And the cafeteria is amazing. They deliver to the room. Main course. Two sides. A dessert. $5.99. Amazing. If you know someone in the hospital here, you need to visit, then pick up the phone in the room, dial food services and order while you’re visiting. Good food, delivered? Can’t beat it.

Update 12/12/2018

  • 10:30a – The patient is doing well and will be discharged this morning. Staying on top of her pain meds. Next steps: six weeks of radiation (they want to meet again first to determine if she can have that much in her neck/head area). Waiting for pathology reports and biopsies from tissue taken yesterday as well.

Update 12/13/2018 – “A new wrinkle”

This is going to sound like I’m making things up.

  • 10:34a – Hey folks. New wrinkle.
    Carolyn went to doc this am to get her drain port from the surgery removed. She had a bad blood pressure spell there when they removed it. They even called an ambulance. She stabilized and went home. Since then, however, the pain in her abdomen and legs has been immense.
  • 6:31p – Ok team.. this is a bit … crazy. Buckle in.
    This afternoon, at home she had another blood pressure spell and was in a lot of pain in her abdomen and legs so we went to the ER to figure out what’s. They ordered scans. The ultrasound was clear. No blood clots. However, the CT scan showed enlarged lymph nodes pressing against her ureters and bladder – causing the major pain.When compared to the CT scan she had in October, there has been SIGNIFICANT growth. Her oncologist was called, and she now thinks it’s lymphoma. They are admitting her because they will need to do a needle biopsy to determine that. It might still be sarcoidosis (growth possible there too) but a biopsy is required and they admitted her to the hospital for pain control and to ensure prompt scheduling of biopsy.
  • Right now, we are in “no one really knows” land until we have a definitive report on what this is. But the concern obviously is the rapid growth. Carolyn’s mom is going to the house to get stuff and will stay with her tonight.

God is up to something in all this. Pray that we will experience Him and that He is glorified while Carolyn is comforted, blessed and is given endurance.

Update 12/14/2018

  • 9:17a – We are waiting for a needle biopsy this morning. It will be the next stage of fact-finding. Carolyn’s pain is intense outside of the meds, so that’s not a happy place to be in for her. Pray for endurance and for the pain to be mitigated.
  • 1:45p – I have found where they keep the coffee pot ☕️for the staff, and when you walk into the room with nonchalance and innocence, you are allowed to pour yourself a cup of coffee with no one asking you what you’re doing or why you’re drinking “staff” coffee. Strangely, after a few cups, I find myself wanting to wear a smock.
  • 2:19p – Biopsy done and results will take a few days. They will begin to transition her to oral meds to see how she does (she’s been on IV since we got here) and then consider her going home.Obviously, the enlarged lymph nodes need to be treated but it looks like they want to first find out what they are.Thanks for prayers. And thanks to Chick-Fil-A soulmates last night and today: Leah Hughes, Julie Jewell, and Erin Petersen.
  • 2:34p – When I was a kid, my folks would say, “Were you raised in a barn?” in some strange attempt to tell me to close the door which I had a problem leaving open. Apparently medical personnel were raised in barns. Here and at Wake Forest, I find myself bouncing up after they leave the room to.. close the door. Do you think if I moo loudly at the next person who comes in, that they will get the message?
  • 5:20p – They are keeping her another night to be safe with her pain management. Starting her on pills instead of IV and will observe. Also giving her steroids to treat the inflammation of either sarcoidosis or lymphoma. Antibiotics also. She’s not happy with staying, but without meds, her pain inches up to being off the scale.
    Adelyn arrived this afternoon for the holidays, having finished her finals at CNU. She promptly tried on a pair of the blue rubber gloves and ate Carolyn’s leftover Chick-Fil-A.

Update 12/15/2018

  • 8:50a – She’s doing much better this am. The transition to oral meds and steroids overnight has her feeling alert and only mild pain. She will be checking out soon. She has an appt with the oncologist Tuesday and a followup in Wake Forest on Wednesday.

Thanks for your prayers. As we know more, we will update you.

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June Fitzgerald
June Fitzgerald
November 15, 2018 10:59 pm

Jeff, I am one of the ladies in your mom’s “OBU Group”. We have followed Carolyn’s health story since she was diagnosed in 1991 and continue to keep in touch with Marylee concerning her progress. Through the years many, many prayers have been offered asking the Lord to protect Carolyn and to guide doctors in her treatment. We will continue those prayers for her present situation and know that He will be with all concerned in her journey. Is your Go Fund Me account still active? If so, please give me the information to be able to access it. The… Read more »

Kristy
Kristy
November 15, 2018 11:08 pm

Love you guys! Praying with you from what feels like a million miles away this time.

Kathy & Trey
Kathy & Trey
November 16, 2018 9:48 am

Noble Friends…we prayed with you in 1991 and we pray with you now. Your perspective is a ministry all to itself. Wishing you grace and love moment by moment.

Jolyn Cates
Jolyn Cates
November 16, 2018 12:03 pm

Praying for you two. So glad I get your blog. You meant so much to us when we were all in Monticello. I know God is in control. Our thoughts, love, and prayers are with you.

Dara Stewart
Dara Stewart
November 15, 2018 6:20 pm

We will pray from afar. Love your family!

Miranda Bebee
Miranda Bebee
November 15, 2018 6:35 pm

Praying for Carolyn and your family! Praying for God’s peace for y’all and wisdom for Drs and surgeon.

Amanda Williams
Amanda Williams
November 15, 2018 6:36 pm

Praying for y’all!!!

Tanner Blankenship
Tanner Blankenship
November 15, 2018 6:38 pm

Love you guys dearly! Praying for Carolyn’s healing and for God’s overwhelming grace through this season. Thank you for posting this.

Tammy English
Tammy English
November 15, 2018 6:44 pm

Prayers luv and miss you guys

Kiki Cherry
Kiki Cherry
November 15, 2018 7:33 pm

❤️ Praying for grace, peace and wisdom. Love you guys!

Kenny Thompson
Kenny Thompson
November 15, 2018 7:50 pm

Jeff! will be praying for you as you goth through this next phase. Miss you both!

Deborah Root
Deborah Root
November 15, 2018 8:14 pm

Praying for you all as you are on this journey. ❤️

Ellen Cianelli
Ellen Cianelli
November 15, 2018 8:41 pm

Lifting Carolyn Noble up in prayer! ❤️

Barbara Scheid
Barbara Scheid
November 15, 2018 8:59 pm

Lord, your servants don’t seem afraid, but I am for them, and because they are your light to so many, I ask in Jesus’ name for complete physical healing of Carolyn. We need her. You teach us and show us through your word that we should seek your grace in all our despair. Lord bring on your grace and let your light shine on Jeff, Carolyn, Sam and Adelyn.

Carrie Throckmorton
Carrie Throckmorton
November 15, 2018 9:11 pm

Praying!

Blake McKinney
Blake McKinney
November 15, 2018 10:39 pm

Yuck. I’m so sorry, Jeff. The McKinneys will be praying.

Karee Dowty
Karee Dowty
November 15, 2018 11:18 pm

Praying for you all

Esbeida Arce-Higginbotham
Esbeida Arce-Higginbotham
November 15, 2018 11:47 pm

Will definitely be praying💕

Zoe Dozier
Zoe Dozier
November 15, 2018 11:49 pm

Hello friends/ prayer warriors. This is my cousin’s wife. I’ve spoken of her before so please read this update so you can pray specifically for their needs. Thanks to you all.

Rosie Pagan
Rosie Pagan
November 16, 2018 4:18 am

Praying for you all!!!!

Megan Brewer
Megan Brewer
November 16, 2018 7:09 am

Praying for you guys! ❤️

Sharon Shockley
Sharon Shockley
November 16, 2018 7:56 am

Praying for your family!

Dot McPherson
Dot McPherson
November 16, 2018 3:10 pm

I am a friend of the McKinney’s. I read the post. I have just prayed for Carolyn for healing, either by just the power of Jesus alone, or either by guiding the doctors and medical teams in decisions and performing treatment. I also prayed for her endurance physically, emotionally and for her to feel the Love of God in her deepest valleys on her journey through whatever lies ahead. I have prayed for strength and comfort for family members as they are on the journey with her.

Leigh Anne McKinney
Leigh Anne McKinney
November 15, 2018 6:01 pm

Much love and many prayers for you guys!

Christy Ramsey
Christy Ramsey
November 15, 2018 6:09 pm

Love you both❤️. Praying for yall!

Julie Carpenter
Julie Carpenter
November 15, 2018 6:19 pm

Jeff- we have always prayed for you and Carolyn but probably never really understood the bravery and faith that you both have exhibited until our own cancer battle. We love you and pray for healing and strength for Carolyn and your family.

Jennifer Willis
Jennifer Willis
November 15, 2018 6:19 pm

Prayers for you precious friends. Sending our love from Texas ❤️

Aaron Petersen
Aaron Petersen
November 15, 2018 7:00 pm

Love you guys so much! Let me know if there’s anything I can do. I can cook a mean breakfast for dinner meal for ya! 😁

Tiffany Powell
Tiffany Powell
November 15, 2018 8:24 pm

Much ❤️ love, 🤗hugs and prayers to you all!

Phillip Slaughter
November 15, 2018 9:30 pm

Rosie and I are praying for you guys. We cannot imagine what this must be like. God has used your past hiccups to transform you into the incredible people you are today. While I deeply wish Carolyn and the rest of you didn’t have to go through this again, I simultaneously know He will work this together for good. Your faith in the midst of turmoil is a powerful testimony.

Billie Heflin
Billie Heflin
November 15, 2018 10:18 pm

Prayers for you guys!! Love you!!!❤️❤️❤️

Heidi Erickson
Heidi Erickson
November 15, 2018 11:32 pm

Many prayers being sent your way!!!! If I can help out at all in any way please let me know😘❤️😘

Lou Arnold
November 15, 2018 11:36 pm

We will be praying for Carolyn and the rest of you guys during this time.

Jennifer Becker
Jennifer Becker
November 16, 2018 5:55 am

Praying for all of you and all the medical professionals involved! We love you guys,

Kimberly Penson
Kimberly Penson
November 16, 2018 10:01 am

Love you guys! Prayers from way way down in Texas.

Lisa Robertson
Lisa Robertson
November 16, 2018 10:03 am

Standing with you before the Throne.

Ben Coulter
Ben Coulter
November 16, 2018 1:06 pm

Praying for y’all and love you guys.

Katie Rice
Katie Rice
November 16, 2018 1:07 pm

Praying for you guys ❤️

Megan Lee
Megan Lee
November 16, 2018 1:20 pm

Lifting up many prayers for you and your family!

Kami Jaggers
Kami Jaggers
November 16, 2018 3:32 pm

Love you guys!! Sending prayers!

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 17, 2018 6:33 pm

Sending my love and prayers

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Gertrud Rath Montgomery
Gertrud Rath Montgomery
November 17, 2018 2:48 pm

Carolyn, you and your family are in my prayers! I just remembered the good old days when the boys (now young men) played baseball. I saw your name coming up in the staff list of the guidance department at BHS. Sending lots of positive vibes to you!💕

Cristi
Cristi
December 11, 2018 9:21 am

God brought Carolyn to mind this morning while I was praying so prayed for her then. Seeing this blog post reminds me that God knows our needs. Praying fervently today that God meets all of your needs today! Love you, Carolyn.

Sandi Sample Wilson
Sandi Sample Wilson
December 11, 2018 12:09 pm

So many hiccups! Holding my breath via prayer that they go away soon! Love you, Carolyn and will be praying for you, Jeff, the kids and doctors through this journey! 😘🙏

Heidi Erickson
Heidi Erickson
December 11, 2018 3:08 pm

Hey Noble family! Im so happy that Carolyn made it through surgery today and that you got your free refil Jeff! I will keep praying for all of you! Sending lots of love and joy your way!!!! God is good all the time!!!!😊

Jennifer O Cole
Jennifer O Cole
December 12, 2018 2:40 pm

My kids were PA students while Mary Lee was still on staff. We do love her! I have to laugh a bit because my husband is a huge fan of hospital cafeterias, he would be right there with you!!! Your sense of humor will serve you all well! Stay on top of the pain meds, and keep on smiling!!! Praying for you all!!!!

Bit
Bit
December 13, 2018 9:16 pm

Hey dear friend, I Just wanted you to know I just got caught up on the latest journey over the last few months. I will be another Arkie prayer buddy for you and Carolyn and family. Love you both and love how your raw authentic faith gives God the glory from bruised, worn but strong anticipatory faith in our Savior, Healer, King of Kings and Dearest Friend.
Much love and prayers,
Bit Stephens

rob5leonard
December 14, 2018 5:24 pm

I am praying and passing it on. I love you guys. I hope Carolyn’s pain is minimal. We’ll all keep you at the top of our lists.

Jo Chesser
Jo Chesser
December 17, 2018 12:39 am

Have been praying for Carolyn and your whole family. God, please supply all their needs and give them your grace and power as they travel this road. Love your mom and dad, Jeff. They are dear, precious friends. Jo Chesser, IBC

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